Wednesday, November 10, 2004

Deductive Approach VS. Inductive Approach

After viewing the teaching presentation, which group does E-factor and A-factor in the practicum? Which approach do you think is efficient for grammar teaching? What do you learn from the activity?

37 comments:

Maggie Lin said...

I prefer the group seven. Their presentation is more vivid and interesting. The teaching method they use is the natural approach and a deductive approach. In the first place, they have a role play and have some conversations with each other. Their voice is loud enough and their performance is good. Then, the teacher has some questions to the students what they have done before. For example, “Who phoned Ricky?” or “Who did Ricky phone?” They use some minimal grammar pairs. And the student’s answer is “Kiwi phoned Ricky.” The students repeat the sentences again and again. Finally, teacher asks three volunteers of the rest of students to practice those sentences. They have good interaction between the teacher and the students. It is a good approach that after doing something the students getting something; therefore, in my opinion, this group does E-factor in the practicum.

jamielan said...

I like the group which uses the total physical response method and inductive approach. Throught the movement and the position of the students who seems to be young kids, they can understand what the teacher what to teach easily. I think this group fit in with both E-factor and A-factor.
In my opinion, inductive approach is more effecient for grammar teaching. Instead of knowing the rules from the teacher first, students can understand or find out the the grammar from the examples that the teacher gave.
From this activity, I learned that teaching is not easy for an unexperienced teacher. Because there are so many variable situation might happen in class, and one needs experience to handle all that. Therefore, practice how to teach is very important.

Allison Chen said...

I like Group 8 in teaching. In Group 8, the object is elementary school students. The teacher uses conceret examples and explainations to instruct a certain grammatical item, prepositions, such as under, on, in, in front of and so on. In the first place, the teacher makes some actions to introduce and then then narrates short sentences about former actions related prepositions. Secondly, the teacher asks students to repeat sentences. Finally, the teacher asks students to make an action about what the teacher says correctly ot to response a correct action about prepositions. In my opinion, they use the method of total physical response and deduction. The teacher and students use their body and actions to express their comprehension about prepositions. It's also a good way to make sure what students really understand the teaching og grammar. In addition, it can be a communication between students and the teacher. Therefore, they have both e-factor and a-factor. I think it's fun and interesting. The happier circumstances are, the more efficient students learn.

Tina Xu said...

I prefer the group which showed the powerpoint in tne class and prepared the teaching in the decuctive approach. The teaching grammar to this group is about synonyms of the verbs (take, spend, cost); it explained very clearly how to understand the teaching or how to use this grammar before examples. But it could be dull and difficult so that the learners should be junior high school students rather than elemantary ones. This group's E-factor helps students take down in writing in the classroom, and its A-factor is good for who has previous learning experience.
As far as I am concerned, I am suitable for static teaching way, like deductive approach, because it can save time to learn other grammar in short time. If I know the rule first, I will be sure what I do the next step. I think the concept of learning should be clear, or studentd become confused gradually.
As to the activity, I find if the teacher's impetus to teaching grammar is important. Maybe to be a teacher needs to have enthusiasm and devotion, for the learning effect is influenced by the motive power. In short, besides being a teacher, this teacher tries to create more ideas in order to attract students' attention.

Johnsonchu said...

Actually, when groups are processing their presentation, I suppose that I'm the student in the class and try to realize what they try to perform in the presentation. Yes, basically, I can understand what did they present, but I prefer that they can design a series of sentences to give the students a deeper impression of the language. Such as to design an interesting dialog or some useful sentences. I can't tell which one will be a better way for teaching grammar, because either of deductive way and inductive way of teaching grammar have its own advantages and disadvantages on teaching. Here is a recently voting results for "How do you approach grammar teaching?". 1.I prefer a deductive approach--9%. 2.I prefer an inductive approach--17%. 3.I use a mixture of both--70%. 4.I use another approach--3%. Obviously, most of teachers are using a mixture of both way to teach grammar.

GwenLin said...

I prefer the group seven because of their practical actions in class. It is the very useful way for students to know if their sentences quite correct or not. The basic course arrangement for the most of unruly students will be worked immediately. In the proceeding action, many students may feel boring in some plain teaching, but group seven let students learn how to know the rules in grammar with speaking.
The examples will be more improved for the whole idea in teaching.

SanLee said...

There is a group which uses physical response method and inductive approach. In their movement and position of students, they seems to be young kids, they can easily understand the teacher would like to teach.
When I was one of students in class, I would like to be the very attender there. Inductive approach is more effecient for grammar teaching. Instead of knowing the rules from the teacher first, students can understand or find out the the grammar from the examples that the teacher gave.
From their activity, teaching is not easy for an unexperienced teacher. Besides, I found most of teacher can't deal with some sudden situation at the moment on the stage. However, it is also a very practical method for us to learn how to teach well.

christine said...

I prefer group eight, because they use inductive ways to teach students. They give students examples to follow, and I think that the inductive ways can attract students' attentions, and can let them understand the meaning more quickly and easily that teachers give. When teachers ask students to follow them to speak sentences out, students also can how to use these sentences correctly. I think that it is more important for students to attract their attentions. If teachers can attract students' attention, students must learn very well.

Serena said...

The teaching of Deductive is the only way I'm familiar. Because that's the only approach I contact from my childhood until now. Though Deductive approach can be time-saving and make students understand more easily. I think Inductive approach will make the learners more interesting and sensitive to their lesson, because they have to pay attention to what all the examples that they could possibly figure out the rules. There are also advantages and disadvantages with both of the teaching ways. All the groups show clearly what the way present. Also, through the groups' presentation, I could understand more clearly what the ways are.

Sherry Chang said...

The last group in Wednesday, I think they did A-factor in their practicum. It’s because their teaching way is appropriate for adults. Students will learn the rules from discussing with classmates. The other group who taught colors for their students, they did E-factor in their presentation. I think the teacher repeats the short sentences again and again will help the students remember quirkily. Their group repeated the sentences continually, and tried to sing a song. I think it’s a very good way to pay attention to young students. Students will not only learn the short sentences from the songs, but also learn the colors. I prefer the each group who uses deductive approach. It’s because deductive approach is very efficient and clear, it also appropriate for adults who has the metalanguage.

Kate said...

In my opinion, inductive approach is suitable for student. I prefer that because it sets up inside motivation by allowing atudents to discover rules rathen than being told them. After our group represented, I realized that be a teacher should inform clearly what they have to do.In this way, student are able to follow teacher's way.
In addition, in CLT approach,I like most. Teacher should keep explanations brief and simple.Use the mother tongue if students cannot follow an explanation in English. And illustrating with clear examples in order to let student understand more.

AnitaCheng said...

I like Group seven's performance. The teacher used the conversation and acted it out. From the conversation, students can clearly understand who phoned each other. By this way, students can be involved in the real situation. They will start to think and ask themself. What if I am the character? I would say which sentance?
And also, through the interaction between the teacher and the students, students can learn and memorize deeply. So i think the way of Group seven is very effactive.

julianne said...

In my opinion, I prefer the final group's presentation. They make use of singing and repeating the sentenses to teach students, and let them have deep impression on the sentenses. I consider that it seems an efficient and beneficent teaching way for students to learn sentences quickly and memorize them well. Then, the classmates can apply these useful sentenses in their daily life. Such a teaching way,Direct Method(DM), can greatly help students learn more from funny and interesting class and also attract students to get into learning's pleasure.

Sandy said...

I like group 7, because the method they use to teach is easy for students to understand. I think the deductive teaching is more effective than inductive teaching. For most students, grammar is regard as a big problem. how to teach is very important. Through dialog or short play I think most students must be attracted and find learning grammar is not boring and difficult.

Angel Wu said...

As far as I am concerned, I think that two methods, inductive and deductive, they all have a helpful effect to make student learn English faster and more efficient. I prefer deductive one than inductive because deductive can let students learn step and step. It also can use guidance to teach students and makes them more pay attention to listen. I feel that is suitable for most students, including me. Therefore I like the final group in last Wednesday. They sang the song and repeated the sentences to deepen students’ impression and bear in mind quickly. I believe that the way can make students are more interested to learn. In short, the methods which can make students get more information and want to continue to learn. It is a very important concept and it would be a good way to students.

Betty Chang said...

I have deep impression on the final group’s presentation which reported last week. By explaining from this group, I get some reflections.
Inductive learning puts emphasis on the students’ automatic learning. The students study examples and from these examples derive an understanding of the rule. However students are easily distracted from the presentation by any interesting things. And then can not follow teacher’s explicit example. It will make students feel frustrated if they can not see the point of teacher’s presentation. Besides this, some students can not work out the rule at once. Finally these students will just memorize the rule, but they do not understand the rule.
As for teacher, she or he must pay more time to observe every student’s reflection in order to assure their hypotheses about the rule. If teacher just spends much time preparing presentation and does not pay attention to the students’ reaction, this teaching approach will not achieve its goal. It is not efficacy. Of course, the time spends in working out the rules may mislead students into believing that rules are the objective of language learning. And it also reduces time to spend in practicing the rule.

Justin said...

I think Deductive is better than inductive. Because teaching way of deductive is directly tells students a rule which is applied. Most students received this kind of education in junior and senior high schools, even cram schools also uses this way.
So I am used to this teaching to learn something. On the other hand, I likes the last group a lot whose way is to divide into two people a group and let students just to talk over to find the rules. The way can saves the time for teacher and the rules are found by students themselves that will help themselves have deeper impression. The way is easy and effective to save time; also it can help their learning very fast and indirectly develop the good interaction with each other.

Silvia Wang said...
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Silvia Wang said...

In my opinion, I think inductive approach is better for students. If students learn grammar starting with examples, they would have more impression about the grammar and memory grammar fast. Besides, they would learn happily. When teacher give the some examples, they may have a general idea of grammar. While teacher explain the grammar, they may understand more and quickly. I think no matter what approach is, the students’attitude is most important.

Julianne_chen said...

After seeing the presentation, I preferred gruop seventh group because their presention is more lively and it is suit to teach children. In the beginning they had a converstation to have a role play and later they explained it. I think it is quite useful for a learner to learn a new language. Generally, the people we are going to teach is children who are around 9~12 years old and it is very important to use some body language or play game to catch their attention. Furthermore, it can help them to learn a language. I think group seventh did quite well.

陳嬿晴Anita said...

From all these groups' presantation, Group 7 impressed me most. They teached by a interesting and funny way. I think that how to interest students rise up their learning willings is very important. If a teacher just teached to student and never found students' reaction, the effect of teaching won't good. So the interaction between teachers and students is the fatal factor to increase the learning effect. From Group 7's resantation, I found that they used this factor very well. I thought that students would learn happily under this pleasure automosphere.

Tiffany Lin said...

In fact, every group shows their feature and does well. And I prefer agreeing the seven group to choosing other groups because they convey obviously their purpose by role-playing. In the teaching, students can accept this way easily and realize soon. Besides, by the role-playing, it is capable of helping the teacher and students with their interaction. To sum up, it is the effective teaching method.

sunny hsu said...

i think i like the group that they use "T P R"in indutive way, take my for example, it is the most effective way to let the younger learner understand what i'm going to teach, and throw this way not noly the teacher can teach them very easily but also the kids can learn quickly and won't get any pressure.and when i saw what they use and what they taught(in on under)it recall my memory, and i did get the good response from kids. and i also think that throw the presentation we did in the class, it may help classmates know what kind of situation they may have when they are teaching grammar in the feture, and somehow they may know how to response for it.

kellyyu said...

I like group 7.Because they use the easy method to teach for students to understand.The teaching method they use is the natural and deductive approach.Their voice is loud enough. If you are a teacher in the future, I think the loud voice is very importance. The teacher ask some questions to the students, and this way is a good interaction between the teacher and the students.

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Anne said...

I like Gorup 8 in the teaching. In gorup 8, the teacher say the correct sentences and show some actions to the student. And then, the teacher ask for the students do the same way. I think that it is the good way to make sure the students really understand the course context or not. And it is also the way make the impressive to the students because if just only the teacher teaches in the board and the students just listen. It becomes some boring. On the other words, if the students also can have some commumication with the teacher. I think that the course will become interesting. And it also can make students learn things when they also step by step with the teacher.

Cheryl said...

In my opinion, I prefer the methods of deductive approach. This kind of methods may more clear to let student to understand, and it is different from inductive ways. The deductive approach is less serious and more interesting, and students may accept this free and easy way. However, inductive approach prefers systemic and grammatical methods, maybe it is directly more helpful for students. Anyhow, each method has its specialized skills.

lynyen said...

In my oponion, I think inductive approach can let students expressed deeply. Students can easy to understand teacher's teaching. They can't confused about grammar easily. Student usually consider that grammar is very difficult. Therefore, they often don't like to study grammar. If the teacher use inductive approach, it usually arise students' interests.

VIC said...

Actually, every group does a good job, but I prefer group seven and eight. In my opinion, group seven provides a funny to teach English. Because our object is elementary students, most of students aren’t patient in that age. In order to attract their attention, we must use a funny way to teach English. If I am an elementary student, I will like this teaching way. Group seven does E-factor in the practicum. On the other hand, group eight is also a good way to teach student. In the beginning, they exemplify several actions first, then they order students do again. Finally, they give them a quiz to test their student. However, students will remember theses actions from this practicum.

Trista said...

I like the group seven.
They use the natural approach and a deductive approach.
Then, the teacher has some questions,such as
"Who phonedRicky ?” or “Who did Ricky phone?”
Students repeat the sentences again and again.
it explained very clearly how to understand the teaching or
how to use this grammar before examples.

Hamid ELshazly said...

I used to use the deductive approach in teaching grammar as it it is the traditional way my teachers had used in teaching me. However when I read about the inductive appoach and tried it, i think it is more effective and less stressful. Learners can extract the rule by themselves and this help them to be more able to remember it and apply it.

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